Julius Keilwerth brass instruments - Revision history

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 File:Walser 1.jpg
 </gallery><small>Walser trumpet, no serial, valves numbered 4,5,6, source Ebay.it</small>
-A Walser trumpet for sale on Ebay in 2024 was claimed to be a Keilwerth stencil. Walser was an instrument shop in Biel, Switzerland, from 1987 till 2007. I don'think it is a Keilwerth, the details are not Keilwerth, there's no serial number and no Made by Keilwerth reference. There are a few Walser de Luxe trumpets around that have a Kühnl & Hoyer engraving.
+A Walser trumpet for sale on Ebay in 2024 was claimed to be a Keilwerth stencil. Walser was an instrument shop in Biel, Switzerland, from 1987 till 2007. I doubt it's a Keilwerth, the details are not Keilwerth (like the side operated waterkeys..), there's no serial number and no Made by Keilwerth reference. There are a few Walser de Luxe trumpets around that have a Kühnl & Hoyer engraving.
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 Here's a trumpet branded Alexander Mainz. The buyer was told by Alexander that it actually was a Keilwerth Toneking of some 50 years old in 2022. It does however not resemble any Toneking, instead of that it looks more like an early Weltklang, a brand of B&S in Markneukirchen.
-A Walser trumpet for sale on Ebay in 2024 was claimed to be a Keilwerth stencil. Walser was an instrument shop in Biel Switzerland, from 1987 till 2007. I don'think it is, first it would't be in line with the time that keilwerth actually made trumpets, second because the details are not Keilwerth, there's no serial number and no Made by Keilwerth reference. There are a few Walser de Luxe trumpets around that have a Kühnl & Hoyer engraving.
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 Here's a trumpet branded Alexander Mainz. The buyer was told by Alexander that it actually was a Keilwerth Toneking of some 50 years old in 2022. It does however not resemble any Toneking, instead of that it looks more like an early Weltklang, a brand of B&S in Markneukirchen.
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 File:3Musikinstrumentenfabrik Julius Keilwerth.jpg|<small>Keilwerth factory, Silberbacherstrasse 1348, Graslitz 1930</small>
 File:4Keilwerth nu Havlíckova 1348.jpg|<small>Former Keilwerth factory, Havlíčkova 1348, Kraslice</small>
 File:5breinl villa Lipová cesta 1091 Keilwerth villa 1091 waar Julius woonde in 1946.jpg|<small>Breinl villa where Julius Keilwerth lived till 1946</small>
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 Julius was helped along in his efforts by his son Josef (1919 – 1982), who was trained as woodwind instrument maker, as well as his brother—who was also named Josef, and had been the plant manager in Graslitz. His son Josef took over in 1962. After his death in 1982 Julius nephew Gerhard Julius Keilwerth (2.9.1945 - 24.2.2012) became manager at Keilwerth, together with his sister Christa. Gerhard worked for the company till 2007. In 1985 Jochen Keilwerth (1961-.) joined the company.
-[[File:8hoofdkantoor Industriestrasse tot 2010.png|thumb|right|<small>The Nauheim headquarter at the Industriestrasse that was abandoned in 2010</small>]]
+[[File:8hoofdkantoor Industriestrasse tot 2010.png|thumb|right|<small>The Nauheim headquarter at the Industriestrasse 17 that was abandoned in 2010</small>]]
-In 1989 Boosey & Hawkes purchased Keilwerth. By then Keilwerth had some 50 people at work. B&H merged the company with Schreiber in 1996. By then some 100.000 saxophones were produced. The combined company was sold to The Music Group in 2003. In 2006 The Music Group was broken up. Schreiber & Keilwerth became an independent company. The Keilwerth production moved to Markneukirchen under sharp protests from the workforce, the administration remained in Nauheim. In 2007 Gerhard Julius Keilwerth left the company and started a saxophone workshop at Königstrasse 101 in Nauheim. In March 2010, Schreiber & Keilwerth filed for insolvency. On 1 August 2010 they were subsequently acquired by Buffet Crampon.
+In 1989 Boosey & Hawkes purchased Keilwerth. By then Keilwerth had some 50 people at work. B&H merged the company with Schreiber in 1996. By then some 100.000 saxophones were produced. The combined company was sold to The Music Group in 2003. In 2006 The Music Group was broken up. Schreiber & Keilwerth became an independent company. The Keilwerth production moved to Markneukirchen under sharp protests from the workforce, the administration remained in Nauheim at Industriestrasse 17. The buildings at Königstadtstrasse 103 were demolished in 2011 and replaced by six three stock flat roofed appartment buildings. In 2007 Gerhard Julius Keilwerth left the company and started a saxophone workshop at Königstrasse 101 in Nauheim. In March 2010, Schreiber & Keilwerth filed for insolvency. On 1 August 2010 they were subsequently acquired by Buffet Crampon.
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 *the discussion about the system and the logic in Keilwerth sax modell names is a difficult one.
-There are a few examples of a The New King trumpet (with early serial numbers: 0048 and 1468 or without and one - in black and gold - with a late 60's serial number). These have quite a different engravings, the one flowerish, the other straight. They seem to be the quite similar to the early Toneking instruments and until now are only reported from UK, Australia and Norway. I also found a reference to a Julius Keilwerth The New King de Luxe trombone and a The New King trombone with serial number 21.  The New King was a model name used for JK saxophones from before WWII until 1970.
+There are a few examples of a The New King trumpet (early ones with only valve numbers, with early serial numbers: 0048 and 1468 or without and one - in black and gold - with a late 60's serial number). These have quite a different engraving, the one flowerish, the other straight. They seem to be the quite similar to the early Toneking instruments and until now are only reported from Australia (most of them) UK and Norway. I also found a reference to a Julius Keilwerth The New King de Luxe trombone and a The New King trombone with serial number 21.  The New King was a model name used for JK saxophones from before WWII until 1970.
 There's one example of a Keilwerth trumpet branded Broadway King, serial 337. It showed up in Australia.

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 [[File:1Keilwerth Toneking de Luxe 1.jpg|thumb|center|<small>Toneking de Luxe, black and gold lackered</small>]]
-Julius Keilwerth is best known for his saxophones and there's a lot written about the Keilwerth saxophone history. But for quite some time Keilwerth also produced and sold brass instruments, mainly trumpets and trombones. On this page you'll find all the details I could find about Keilwerth brass production. On four separate pages I collected [[Julius Keilwerth brass serial numbers]] 0 - 4.999, 5000 - 9.999, 10.000 - 14.999, 15.000 - 335308, and pictures, as a resource to unravel the Keilwerth brass history.
+<b>Julius Keilwerth is best known for his saxophones and there's a lot written about the Keilwerth saxophone history. But for quite some time Keilwerth also produced and sold brass instruments, mainly trumpets and trombones. On this page you'll find all the details I could find about Keilwerth brass production. On four separate pages I collected [[Julius Keilwerth brass serial numbers]] 0 - 4.999, 5000 - 9.999, 10.000 - 14.999, 15.000 - 335308, and pictures, as a resource to unravel the Keilwerth brass history.</b>
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 File:4Keilwerth 1959.jpg|<small>Keilwerth catalog 1959</small>
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 And there's a Toneking (sr.nr. 1690) with an A and H added to the logo on the bell. That makes it read like AKH, suggesting A.K. Hüttl, another Czech/German instrumentmaker. But Hüttl seized operations after the war, so I think it's problably an individual owner who signed his instrument like this. This instrument was sold on Ebay in 2014 by a Detroit saxophone shop. The seller added that "Rumor has it that this horn was sent back from Germany with Detroit clarinetist and Herb Couf, who eventually stenciled Keilwerth saxophones.  We can neither confirm or deny the story". .....
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+<gallery>File:Alexander.jpg|<small>Alexander Mainz, serial number I1612, machine number T3053</small>
 Here's a trumpet branded Alexander Mainz. The buyer was told by Alexander that it actually was a Keilwerth Toneking of some 50 years old in 2022. It does however not resemble any Toneking, instead of that it looks more like an early Weltklang, a brand of B&S in Markneukirchen.